Being part of a band isn’t for every musician, what with splitting the creative control, collaborating ideas or sharing the spotlight. Some artists prefer to go it alone after starting off in a band, and while it’s not overly common, some who cut ties with their popular band to pursue solo endeavours actually end up becoming much bigger than their original claim to fame. Improve your musical hearing experience with one of the Best true wireless earbuds.
Being part of a band isn’t for every musician, what with splitting the creative control, collaborating ideas or sharing the spotlight. Some artists prefer to go it alone after starting off in a band, and while it’s not overly common, some who cut ties with their popular band to pursue solo endeavours actually end up becoming much bigger than their original claim to fame.
Here are seven musicians who are examples of successfully becoming more relevant and recognisable than the bands they were in originally:
1. Peter Gabriel
Genesis was a big, influential and well-off band in the 70s – but all was not well within the band itself. Peter Gabriel was experiencing some personal drama, which made working with the rest of the band extremely hard and unproductive, especially considering there were some questions as to what direction Genesis should take with their music. While fans wanted the group to work out their differences and keep Genesis together, Peter Gabriel decided differently. He left the band, which left it in disarray, and started building his solo career where he always had the final say creatively. It was an incredibly successful move, with Gabriel reaching the heights of popularity Genesis originally had, and going further, selling millions of records, experimenting with sound and outliving the band creatively for many years.
2. Eric Clapton
Being inducted in the Rock n’ Roll Hall Of Fame is a great honour and means that you’ve reached a certain level of fame and cultural importance, so being inducted three times is a pretty good sign you’ve done well with your career. Eric Clapton first had success in the mid-’60s with the legendary Yardbirds recording a hit song ‘For Your Love’. The track prompted the band to move towards a lighter pop-oriented sound, which didn’t sit well with Clapton – he left the band right after the song was released. His next project Cream was something more suitable to Clapton’s interests – the power-trio innovated the blues-rock genre with lengthy arrangements, emphasis on technically difficult instrumental parts, and jazz elements that made the band an instant hit. The project was short-lived though, disbanding just after two years and three studio albums.
Clapton, being hailed as a guitar God at this point, began working on his solo material producing the cult classic ‘Layla’ as one of the first singles. Eric Clapton has since become one of the most successful musicians in the world selling over a hundred million records.
3. Sting
Sting’s original band the Police had been getting progressively better and more popular throughout the late ‘70s and early ‘80s, reaching an absolute peak with its 1983 album ‘Synchronicity’ becoming the biggest band in the world in terms of commercial success and demand. Leaving the band at that stage was seen as an insane move, but Sting was really dissatisfied with the collaborative process, wanting to explore different genres of music – so he left to pursue a solo career. No one expected him to have quite the phenomenal success he did with his solo albums. Hundreds of millions of sold albums later, Sting is a great example of an ultra-successful career, while his ex-bandmates Stuart Copeland and Andy Summers, despite doing well for themselves, never reached even a fraction of the success.
4. Phil Collins
Another ex-Genesis member, Phil Collins was originally just the drummer for the band, but after Peter Gabriel decided to leave the project in 1975, Collins also became the singer. Having a voice eerily similar to that of Gabriel’s, Collins was quickly accepted by the fans and things were great for a time, but soon Collins’ solo career was hard to ignore. Producing hits right from the start, Collins soon realised his solo career might be a better focus for him. He eventually split from the band in 1996 after successfully doing both Genesis and his solo recordings for 15 years at that point. While Genesis had great hits like ‘I Can’t Dance’ and ‘Jesus He Knows Me’ and sold millions of records, Collins was still more successful as a solo artist.
5. Ozzy Osbourne
This one may be a bit controversial, with it being debatable whether Ozzy eclipsed Black Sabbath in terms of importance and influence, but there is no doubt who is more commercially successful of the two. Ozzy has had millions of sold records, Ozzfests, a reality-show, so much more recognition it’s ridiculous, and that’s not counting the fact that without him Black Sabbath’s albums were hit and miss, while the records that The Prince Of Darkness made constantly sold well. And as a surprise to anyone who is aware of Ozzy’s involvement in the world of heavy drugs, he actually creatively outlived his original bandmates, with his last album ‘Ordinary Man’ released last month.
Here are seven musicians who are examples of successfully becoming more relevant and recognisable than the bands they were in originally:
1. Peter Gabriel
Genesis was a big, influential and well-off band in the 70s – but all was not well within the band itself. Peter Gabriel was experiencing some personal drama, which made working with the rest of the band extremely hard and unproductive, especially considering there were some questions as to what direction Genesis should take with their music. While fans wanted the group to work out their differences and keep Genesis together, Peter Gabriel decided differently. He left the band, which left it in disarray, and started building his solo career where he always had the final say creatively. It was an incredibly successful move, with Gabriel reaching the heights of popularity Genesis originally had, and going further, selling millions of records, experimenting with sound and outliving the band creatively for many years.
2. Eric Clapton
Being inducted in the Rock n’ Roll Hall Of Fame is a great honour and means that you’ve reached a certain level of fame and cultural importance, so being inducted three times is a pretty good sign you’ve done well with your career. Eric Clapton first had success in the mid-’60s with the legendary Yardbirds recording a hit song ‘For Your Love’. The track prompted the band to move towards a lighter pop-oriented sound, which didn’t sit well with Clapton – he left the band right after the song was released. His next project Cream was something more suitable to Clapton’s interests – the power-trio innovated the blues-rock genre with lengthy arrangements, emphasis on technically difficult instrumental parts, and jazz elements that made the band an instant hit. The project was short-lived though, disbanding just after two years and three studio albums.
Clapton, being hailed as a guitar God at this point, began working on his solo material producing the cult classic ‘Layla’ as one of the first singles. Eric Clapton has since become one of the most successful musicians in the world selling over a hundred million records.
3. Sting
Sting’s original band the Police had been getting progressively better and more popular throughout the late ‘70s and early ‘80s, reaching an absolute peak with its 1983 album ‘Synchronicity’ becoming the biggest band in the world in terms of commercial success and demand. Leaving the band at that stage was seen as an insane move, but Sting was really dissatisfied with the collaborative process, wanting to explore different genres of music – so he left to pursue a solo career. No one expected him to have quite the phenomenal success he did with his solo albums. Hundreds of millions of sold albums later, Sting is a great example of an ultra-successful career, while his ex-bandmates Stuart Copeland and Andy Summers, despite doing well for themselves, never reached even a fraction of the success.
4. Phil Collins
Another ex-Genesis member, Phil Collins was originally just the drummer for the band, but after Peter Gabriel decided to leave the project in 1975, Collins also became the singer. Having a voice eerily similar to that of Gabriel’s, Collins was quickly accepted by the fans and things were great for a time, but soon Collins’ solo career was hard to ignore. Producing hits right from the start, Collins soon realised his solo career might be a better focus for him. He eventually split from the band in 1996 after successfully doing both Genesis and his solo recordings for 15 years at that point. While Genesis had great hits like ‘I Can’t Dance’ and ‘Jesus He Knows Me’ and sold millions of records, Collins was still more successful as a solo artist.
5. Ozzy Osbourne
This one may be a bit controversial, with it being debatable whether Ozzy eclipsed Black Sabbath in terms of importance and influence, but there is no doubt who is more commercially successful of the two. Ozzy has had millions of sold records, Ozzfests, a reality-show, so much more recognition it’s ridiculous, and that’s not counting the fact that without him Black Sabbath’s albums were hit and miss, while the records that The Prince Of Darkness made constantly sold well. And as a surprise to anyone who is aware of Ozzy’s involvement in the world of heavy drugs, he actually creatively outlived his original bandmates, with his last album ‘Ordinary Man’ released last month.
I saw Bourne, I thought of The Bourne Identity
And then i realized I was wrong. WOops!
My NELF hunter also uses a turtle pet for tanking, has had shelldon since his mid 30’s around southshore.
Pretty solid pet, thunderstomp + shell shield = teh awesome.
Good luck! I love goals like this within the game – it’s part of the reason I rolled a solo hunter alt. And keep us updated – it’s fascinating to read about the ins and outs of these experiments. The necklace will be yours!
That is the best name for a turtle ever
I thought of Bourne Identity as well. But the BASH reference is better 😀
And after a heated debate about Bourne and BASH and SH here at work, it turns out that Bourne wrote the original SH and BASH is just a play on his name.
Anyway, I was always a big fan of zsh, but that’s just me. 😀
http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2009/05/frostheim-solos-onyxia-hunter-video/
If I was still playing, this is exactly the kind of thing I’d be doing too.
I don’t run Instances or do PUGs not because I don’t like Instances or PUGs, because I do like Instances (PUGs, I can take ’em or leave ’em). I don’t do Instances (or rarely did) because I hated feeling obligated to 4 (or 9) other people when at any moment, for any reason, I might need to go AFK (for any amount of time) and leave my group in the lurch.
I still have bad memories of my first Heroic, with Guildies no less, which I needed to leave partway through. But with my Hearthstone on cooldown and no Mage for a Port, and with me needing to leave now! Not in the 5 minutes or even 60 seconds it might take me to run to the Exit but NOW! I bid adieu, dropped Group, and went AFK, safe in the knowledge that the game would kick me out of the Instance after 20 seconds.. But it didn’t. Because it was a Heroic it was flagged as a Raid, so I didn’t get kicked but stayed in the Instance. My Guildies were able to invite a new 5th member to the ‘Raid’ but with me still in the Instance their new 5th couldn’t enter, and when they left and tried to reset the Instance they couldn’t, because I was still inside. They all dropped group and reformed, even tried making the my replacement the Group Leader, but nothing worked. I was still in “their” Raid Instance and their 5th member couldn’t get in.
I inadvertently but quite royally screwed over my own Guildies because I needed to AFK right NOW! That’s why I rarely did Instances, but why I would Solo them if I could.
You know… if you roll a mage, you never have to have dreams like this. You just accept that fact that you can’t solo anything. 🙂
lol! I’m glad I’m not the only one who gets myphed by how they classify animals in this game 😛
Good luck and totally random comment but I’ve never actually bothered to look at a screenshot of your lil elf. She is dang cute-certainly better than staring at dwarf rump 80 levels 😀
I’ve never tried attumen solo style, but I have soloed ony pretty easily with a turtle. Use all your tricks to get out of the hunter damage. Primarily this means gathering up the whelps with your turtle and using feign death to avoid her big fire move…thingy.
Im pretty optimistic that attumen can be soloed sans T5.
T5 definitely does make a big difference… but if you’re clever about aggro management, you can still kill stuff. I would recommend you try soloing something easier (like Onyxia) before Attumen – Attumen + Midnight actually do hit fairly hard, so the fight is not as easy as some others.
I hate to be breaking this news to you… but I have that necklace. And to make things worse, it was awarded to me by the RL since the other Hunter in the raid have something better and don’t want it… and even though I, too, had a better necklace at that time. So I stashed it into my bank, and to my understanding is still there.
I’m sorry, please forgive me. *runs away*
Bourne shell! Yes!
Isn’t your boyfriend is a warlock? A VW could tank attumen until you burn down Midnight.
@ Gevlon – Yes, but that would be a duo, not a solo! =P I want to be able to say I solo’d it.
That’s an awesome name. Sadly most of my keybinds are in tcsh. I named mine after my kids’ toy turtle, Flash.
I’ve gone off the deep-end in pet-tanking preparations. Tanking gear objectives, talents, pet talents, etc. I wrote them all up. I hope they help you.
I named mine Ivan, after the only racing turtle to defect from the Soviet Union.
Ivan and I have MgT “on farm” now, for the minipet. 🙂
Hey Pike, have you checked out Warcraft Hunter’s Union? They have a bunch of “Extreme Soloing Guides” that cover how to do exactly what you are attempting. Maybe check them out: http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/guides/
And I’m bizarrely jealous. I wish I had time to attempt all this stuff. For the longest time I had nothing (or rather thought I didn’t) to do so I just futzed around with dailies.
Now I’m raiding 3-5 nights a week and I can barely squeeze in fishing for food, hunting for pet snacks and doing dailies to keep me in flasks and repair costs.
I rather think I have an acute case of “grass is always greener on the other side” mixed with “not knowing what you have ’til it’s gone”.
Keep up the good work Pike! I have my turtle Clem at 79 pushing for 80 with intentions of soloing every instance until I can’t anymore. After one too many PUG wipes full of frustration, and not having the time to commit to a more serious guild, I decide to amuse myself and take advantage of hunter solo power!
Bonus points if anyone can figure out where I got my turtle’s name from!
Tortoises (not turtles imho) are cool – one of the hunters has one named Panzer after the German tank.
Good luck on the solo.
I’m looking forward to that challenge when geared better!
That hunter would be me. 😀
BigRedRhino… er, Ihlos… directed people to come here and give some ideas. Now, I haven’t soloed him myself, but I *have* gone through the trash solo, and can confirm that a turtle handles it without as much issue. Shell Shield, when on autocast, activates whenever the pet is at half health or less. It makes a huge difference. Still, you’ll want to either put it on your pet bar or macro it to your bar so you can slap it at will; you want it popping up the moment Attuman jumps into the fray.
Against Attuman, Shell Shield will damp the damage down, but you might still need more than that. I don’t know how fast the pair of them are bringing the pet down, but one thing you might also need to do, rather than just a spec for soloing/tanking, is a high-stamina gear-up. Pick up the Frost Resistance gear, for example. You’ll be doing a *lot* less damage, but your pet will show the added stamina very solidly. Getting a pet with over 20K health unbuffed isn’t impossible.
Bring scrolls as well. Level VII scrolls are cheap as chips nowadays, so you can probably get a stack of them for nothing, and potentially even get some VIII scrolls. I would suggest experimenting between Armor, Stamina, and Agility for which is the most help in an attempt like this (probably Stamina for the extra HP, as I don’t know if the Agility would be high enough for extra avoidance/armor).
Attumen’s curse is dispellable. Mend Pet should take care of that on the pet. I can’t recall if it’s outranged or targeting random people, unfortunately, so I can’t immediately suggest how to keep it off *you*. If someone can remind me (i.e. tell Pike), it’d be vastly appreciated. 😉
Also, for the record, if you need that turtle’s level up fast, do heroics. Four or five heroics at most, and your pet will be at 80 with all the XP you’ll be getting from those enemies. It’s how I tend to level my pets, when I’m not feeling insane and grinding for six hours in Icecrown’s ‘undead heroes field’. 😉
Once i used to love soloing stuff as a hunter, but then i found the protection paladin. Attumen is very easy to solo as a prot pally. I got the mount off him 3 weeks back.
Not ret though.
Thats one boss where you need Defence, armour and lots of Avoidance/Mitigation. Pets are (as far as im aware) rather crittable.
Good luck with ‘shelly’ the turtle 🙂
Ellifain @ Khazgoroth
I made a video of Attumen a while back…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF1sIGjqUPQ&feature=channel_page
You can see how much damage your pet takes when they are both up, but even with the t5 bonus, t7 level gear, and the best solo buffs available (scrolls on both, 40 stam food, pet food) a few unlucky crits may be enough to take your pet out. Shell shield would help, but may not be enough. However, you should be able to get enough people together to do some “fun runs” of t5 instances, at 80 it shouldn’t take more than 10-15 people, depending on gear and whatnot. As for soloing Ony, fd and spirit bond are your best friends. You can toss up a mend pet, feign, and sit there for a minute or two (out of the way of the deep breath), and continue on your merry way. On Ony you can even use a ferocity pet, stack enough stam and bloodthirsty is more than enough to keep your pet alive. If the fireballs are giving you too much trouble, you can move out of the way if you’re fast enough or wait until she targets you, fd, then hop right back up and start your bandaging (this lets you get off a full bandage without getting interrupted.
Also, I absolutely LOVE the croc (slime) for soloing. Bad attitude works way better than the bear’s swipe for large groups of mobs and does more than enough damage to keep you from pulling any healing aggro.